Hi, folks. The defunct Columbia River Crossing freeway mega-expansion appears to be back. Mismanaging Perception will be live-blogging a committee hearing in Salem today, January 14th, 2014 beginning shortly before 1PM. For previous CRC related articles from MMP, click HERE. MMP’s CRC liveblog from last year can be reviewed HERE.
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BOOM! We’re out. #CRC hearing adjourned. Way more questions than answers, doubtless this thing’s going anywhere anytime soon. Over and out.
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 15, 2014
Co-chair abruptly mumbles thank yous, mentions continued conversation, gavels us out and the crowd goes wild! Rushes to get the hell out of here. It’s Miller time!!
Sen. Girod. What if we have a different WA Governor? What happens to eminent domain power? #ORleg #CRC
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 15, 2014
Rep. Bentz asks what Ted Wheeler needs to feel legislature has gotten its act together. More laughter. Treasurer rep can’t really answer. Gotta love the bureaucrats unmatched ability to have no clue what they’re doing. My current state of enthusiasm:
#CRC #ORleg recent mega-project experience in the region on minority hiring not good. http://t.co/Hsr3aVA0lA
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 15, 2014
Sen. Johnson asks if “treasurer would recommend investors would put money into a Too-Low bridge?” Laughter from audience, couple of ‘Ooohs!’
Sen Elizabeth Steiner-Hayward continues asking tough questions: “How will we create new revenue sources if general funds are on the hook to pay back bonds?”
Entering hour number 5 as the sun sets. Treasurer reps thanks committee for their stamina. Chuckles abound.
@senbetsyjohnson ? of the day, “Why shld we the #orleg move fwd w/o the #washleg, How would #orleg feel if wash leg did this to us?” #crc
— Bruce Starr (@BruceStarr) January 15, 2014
@evanmanvel Sen. Johnson, “ODOT is not paying its smaller #CRC contractors.”
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 15, 2014
Sen. Winter, “Serious lack of people of color in this project. It’s unbelievable to me.”
Sen. Johnson, “I shouldn’t have to BEG to get a priced list [of specifics]!”
Tone getting heated between Sen. Johnson and CRC testifiers.
Sen. Johnson has asked for all side agreements, “I’ve been blown off every time I’ve asked that,” #ORleg #CRC
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 15, 2014
@HartNoecker coverage well appreciated. public can’t b there 2 see CRC staff dodge questions. 3 deleted WA interchanges will make it worse.
— Joe Rowe (@buildwithjoe) January 15, 2014
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain…
#CRC asserts to have met HB 2800 requirements, except, well, the biggest one — that is, having WA as partner in risk. #ORleg
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 15, 2014
Rep. Parrish, you should have said this out loud at the hearing!
OR has no way to make WA give us the land needed to do SR14 – maybe divert the ORNatGuard from Afghanistan tour & divert to WA border? #crc
— Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 15, 2014
Sen. Chip Shields asks about legal liability for #CRC. DOJ dodges question by invoking attrny client privilege. pic.twitter.com/ktxTtwpHVF
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 15, 2014
Bentz “We’ve heard a lot about how we’re going to be sued by different folk.” OR DOJ “i’m not going to comment.” #ORleg #CRC
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 15, 2014
Hearing room still packed going into hour four. Last year with public testimony room was clearing out by now. Come for the slideshow, stay for the gaping holes in CRC logic.
Chair Read: “Can we suspend driver’s license for non-compliance?” DOJ: “No.”
SenGirod: “If Wash residents can’t be compelled to pay our tolls, then your projects are way off.” #CRC #orleg
— Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 15, 2014
DOJ can’t answer question: “If Wash. drivers know there’s no way to enforce toll violations, what’s to stop them all from not paying?”
Rep. Smith worries about a potential $90m cost if interest rates rise. me: right-sizing mega-project could save billions. #ORleg #CRC
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
@HartNoecker You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
— Inigo Montoya (@iaminigomontoya) January 14, 2014
Grumpy Cat isn’t not impressed with this hearing.
I don’t even know what this means:
#crc #orleg: You get half as much from revenue bonds because the private sector discounts the tolls by one-half to compensate for risk
— Joe Cortright (@Joe_Cortright) January 14, 2014
Ugh, hearing is getting boring, too many technical minutia. longs for summertime rabble-rousing
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@CapitolCurrents That’s what I heard him say!!!!!! #CRC #Fail #Toll
— Mizée (@mezay) January 14, 2014
CRC says no way to collect tolls from Canadian drivers. Blames Patriot Act.
CRC says surveys tell exactly which people use bridge 1 or 2 times a week vs every day. But they forgot to ask them what state they live in? Inconceivable!!
Rep. Anderson: “It should would be a lot simpler if we could just send the state of Washington a bill for this.”
Crowd is getting antsy, tired of non-asnwers, craning neck to view pie chart on new wall directly behind them.
Tough as Nails Betsy Johnson asking all the right questions. Att. CRC backers: Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid #CRC
— Don Arambula (@donarambula) January 14, 2014
@evanlandman Can’t imagine why… pic.twitter.com/Ox1WiBmCMg
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
2/3 of people reside in Washington and 1/3 reside in Oregon! !!!!!! #CRC Yet Oregon will pay the bill and take on risk!
— Mizée (@mezay) January 14, 2014
Sen. Johnson: “How can we justify new #CRC bridge for less traffic than today?” I clapped out loud. Awkward silence.
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
CRC can’t answer how many bridge users are Oregon vs Washington drivers, estimates could be 2/1 ratio. That’s a big guess.
Sen. Gorsek: (paraphrasing) “I don’t see where we’re really getting a full picture. I-5, I-84, I-205 all connected, yet your analysis doesn’t reflect this.”
#CRC backers: “Higher the tolls, the less traffic.” Getting frowns from the committee. This is what crashing and burning looks like.
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
I can’t fathom why @GovKitz is pushing such an unstable #CRC plan. We need a bridge replacement but this could really break our bank #orleg
— Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 14, 2014
@senbetsyjohnson – asking GREAT #CRC questions today….
— Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 14, 2014
Sen. Johnson: “I’m not satisfied with your diversion answer.”
@Pyperline The doublespeak isn’t escaping the committee. Lots of skepticism, far more than last year.
— Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
This hearing is matching CRC’s website update more and more:
Sen. Shields brings up huge “dissonance” between FEIS and this analysis in terms of diversion; also I-84 problems. #ORLeg #CRC
— Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
@CRC_project tell that to the poor kids in east Portland with asthma.
— George Bailey Smith (@GeorgeBaileyDog) January 14, 2014
Sen. Chip Shields nails it: “How there be such a discrepancy between traffic migration between this report and the EIS several years ago?”
Rep. Parrish: “If you’re telling you’re not factoring in I-205 traffic increase, it would be great if CDM/ODOT go back in re-evaluate that.”
Great question: Rep. Smith: “Is increased maintenance costs to I-205 post traffic migration been considered in CRC costs?” Answer: “No.”
@CRC_project Not what he said. All tolls ASSESSED not collected electronically, optical recog. Lic# and US Mail collect rest correct? #CRC
— Mizée (@mezay) January 14, 2014
.@ChristianaMayer The #CRC PowerPoints are available online here –> https://t.co/BOJZMmMZhB
— Anna Staver (@AnnaStaver) January 14, 2014
@HartNoecker I wrote about the CRC “sucking sound” in Dec 2011… http://t.co/yEWv2vOvkE But Ross Perot has us beat. 😉 — Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
CDM Smith says #CRC peak tolling would start at $4.50. Each way. — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
Really wish this could be included in the slideshow:
#crc #orleg Funny, CDM Smith leaves out the South Bay Expressway in San Diego, which used their forecast and went bankrupt — Joe Cortright (@Joe_Cortright) January 14, 2014
@evanmanvel I wrote about #CRC ‘sucking sound’ a year ago. No $$ for better pedestrian access in E. Portland… http://t.co/ca8ka9jCW2 — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
Sen. Winters asks for specifics on diminishing Federal money. #CRC can’t give any specifics. — Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
Rep. Parrish first to ask about traffic migration to I-205.
Spot on: Sen. Johnson raises the concern that #CRC risk jeopardizes other projects Oregonians value. Sidewalks, transit, road repair, etc. — jason miner (@jminerOR) January 14, 2014
Sen. Johnson to Garrett, “You keep talking variables…where’s ODOT’s assurance that overruns won’t create a sucking noise of funds for other projects?” Sen. Johnson asks about guarantee of Fed funding, “I don’t imagine there’s $850 million sitting in a box somewhere.” Draws laughter from audience.
RT @evanmanvel: Sen. Girod asks about cost overruns. Answer from #CRC‘s Strickler Oregon would be responsible for any cost overruns! #ORleg — 1000 Friends Oregon (@1000oregon) January 14, 2014
Oregon eats the overruns in @govkitz‘s new #CRC plan…more tolls, or raise the gas tax to pay for it out of highway trust fund #orleg — Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 14, 2014
#CRC Garrett hints at ‘private entities’ that can manage tolling, would help “share the risk”. — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
#crc #orleg: Sen Beyer needs to ask Strickler if this project is financially feasible with revenue bonds backed only by tolls: IGA says NO — Joe Cortright (@Joe_Cortright) January 14, 2014
Sen. Chip Shields asks if Oregon has authority to change tolls to Wash.,Garrett nods approval, gives vague answer, says will be addressed more later. CRC Twitter feed dishing out predictable bullsh*t.
@CRC_project SOME?!! Wow. #CRC — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
Livestream of committee hearing in Room F is HERE. Senator Betsy Johnson starts with a tough tone.
Bravo Sen. Betsy Johnson #orleg: The Oregon Only #CRC = unlimited liability for Oregon to pay cost overruns & revenue shortfalls, not $450m — Joe Cortright (@Joe_Cortright) January 14, 2014
Senator Betsy Johnson – “Be more clear and give us the real cost, not make us have to tease the info out from you” – #CRC #orleg — Julie Parrish (@hotcouponmama) January 14, 2014
CRC showing slideshow, predictable shots of gridlock traffic from a decade ago.
@evanmanvel #CRC slideshow: Look at all that congestion (from 10 years ago)! pic.twitter.com/PTEE7SNZtu — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 14, 2014
CRC opponent Evan Manvel is already on fire.
#CRC Strickler uses “improvements” language of highway expansionists. Boosting climate emissions is not an improvement. — Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
At #CRC hearing: Director Garrett. “Goal is to provide clear understanding.” Doubtful, as testimony is from pro-CRC contractors. #ORleg — Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
#CRC whitewash begins with calling it an I-5 bridge replacement project. Most of cost is hwy expansion #ORleg — Evan Manvel (@evanmanvel) January 14, 2014
Hearing is beginning, room is now full. Rep. Read gavels us to order.
@GovKitz @oregonlive Words are just words. Your actions speak otherwise. You can’t say you support environment&jobs if you support the #CRC — TwoWheels&ALady (@2WheelsAndALady) January 14, 2014
Just arrived here at the capitol building in Salem, getting settled in and set up. Spectators trickling in.
Why is @tedwheeler, and not @GovKitz, the rational, disciplined, financially responsible voice on the #CRC? http://t.co/nNvcnz4Z5C — Steve Duin (@SteveDuin) January 10, 2014
IT’S BAAAACK! RT: @mismanaging2012 New post: Unmerciful Insanity: the Columbia River Crossing http://t.co/8BFiQiO9u0 #noCRC #CRCboondoggle — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 12, 2014
I can’t believe we still have to protest this shit RT: @blueoregon Actual Oversight, or #CRC Whitewash? http://t.co/mL8KxHb4yH #FuckFreeways — Hart Noecker (@HartNoecker) January 7, 2014
The next Columbia River Crossing hearing at the capitol in Salem is this Tuesday, January 14th, 2014 at 1pm. Testimony is by invitation only. If you can’t make it in person, please follow the Mismanaging Perception liveblog of the hearing, beginning shortly after noon that day.
The rare fiscal conservative / livable cities alliance is on tomorrow at the Oregon capitol as Kitz, legislature attempt another Nike #noCRC
— Nicholas Caleb (@ncaleb) February 11, 2013